Designer
By Luc Armant on Tue, 21 Oct 2025 - 09:53

In reply to by Maxime Bellemin

Wing and Harness can be in separated classes.
There is actually a definition of a competition harness, created last year and in application when the new EN norm for harnesses will be published, sometimes early 2026. This newly created harness class will exclude Submarine harnesses and some other models because the shock absorption criteria will not be good enough. The rules will be retroactive to old harnesses in 2029. The idea is to not mandate all pilots to through their existing equipment to the bin.

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CIVL Delegate
By Tilen Ceglar on Thu, 16 Oct 2025 - 23:30

What is wrong with EN-C? Why is necessary to create a new class of gliders?

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Organiser
CIVL Delegate
By Thomas Brandlehner on Fri, 17 Oct 2025 - 13:52

In reply to by Tilen Ceglar

EN-C is not designed for competitions:
There is no limiter mandatory.
AFAIK the minimum line diameters and break loads are not defined.
The line tolerances are way to high.
No limitation in AR.
And most important: The norm is not public availiable so not easy to check if a glider compliies to it.
I am afraid that if there are world titles to achieve then manufacturers and pilots will "expand" the Class as much as possible.

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Designer
By Luc Armant on Tue, 21 Oct 2025 - 09:47

In reply to by Thomas Brandlehner

That's true. EN C on its own is not design to be a competition class. It's ok for some small local competition but it's already starting to show its limitation for SRS. If it was for the Worlds championship, then manufacturers will do Enzo4 or X-One certified EN C, flown by top pilots but not adapted to lower level pilots.

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Organiser
By thomas senac on Sun, 19 Oct 2025 - 15:11

I share a statment provided earlier, which might be of help.

Concerns Regarding the Use of EN Certification for a Sports Class World Paragliding Championship / 15 December 2023
Dear CIVL Bureau (and Delegates),
We, the members of WG6 (the authors of the current EN926-2 standard which describes methods for classifying the flight safety characteristics of paragliders in terms of the demands on pilot flying skills), are writing to express our deep concerns regarding the recent announcement of the Sports Class World Championship based on EN-C certification.
While we acknowledge and appreciate the initiative to create a new competition category, we believe that using the EN classification as a criterion for glider selection raises considerable risks and challenges that require more careful consideration.
Our primary concerns are as follows:
1.Safety vs. Fairness: The EN test criteria are designed primarily to ensure the safety of paragliders, not for establishing fairness in competition. Implementing EN certification as a criterion for glider selection in a high-ranking competition like the proposed Sports Class World Championship may compromise the safety-oriented nature of EN certification.
2.Lessons from the Past: Reflecting on past experiences from 2011 to 2015 when EN-D was used as a competition class, gliders not originally intended for classic “EN-D pilots” were certified as such for competition pilots. We anticipate a similar scenario with the EN-C class, and we are concerned that this would impact a broader spectrum of pilots.
3.On-site Issue Resolution: During a competition, it is crucial that all questions related to equipment compliance can be resolved on-site. Unlike the EN classification, which relies mostly on flight tests, scrutineering at the Sports Class World Championship will require a process to verify any equipment-related queries on-the-spot. The current CCC has proved superior as a competition class in this regard, compared to relying on EN-D.
In light of these concerns, we strongly urge the CIVL Bureau to reconsider the decision, and follow the CCC class example to develop a more suitable set of rules for defining Sports Class competition equipment. (Measurable parameters might include aspect ratio constraints, and limits on the variable elements of speed systems, for example.)
We suggest that our concerns and recommendations be discussed during the upcoming CIVL Plenary meeting. To facilitate this discussion, we request that our letter be shared with the CIVL Bureau and Delegates in advance of the meeting to ensure a thoughtful and informed consideration of these critical issues.
We appreciate your attention to this urgent matter and look forward to collaborating for the ongoing success and safety of paragliding competitions and promoting a healthy leisure paragliding activity.
Sincerely, Angus Pinkerton / Convenor, TC136/WG6

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CIVL Delegate
By Julien Garcia on Mon, 20 Oct 2025 - 21:48

In reply to by thomas senac

Thanks Thomas for this. This message from WG6 went after CIVL announced a Cat 1 event SPORT in October 2023. It went bold and without consultation. It is believed that the current "stand down" will actually lead to a Pan-American championship (Cat1 ) in SPORT (read EN-C) gliders.
It's urgent to define proper specification before such initiative is taken.

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By Hans Bausenwein on Mon, 20 Oct 2025 - 12:58

a very valid argumentation, it`s appreciated

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Designer
By Luc Armant on Tue, 21 Oct 2025 - 10:32

I think it's a very nice project, and it might be necessary.
EN C on its own would be a disaster for the reasons explained by many.

The trap is to think without anticipation, just by referring to the existing state. An example:
"EN C wings are nice. SRS is a nice competition. Let's do all competition with EN C. "
If you do so, EN C for competition becomes a design constraint and manufacturer will produce a specific EN C wing with an aspect ratio close to 8, only suitable for top level competitors. And the situation would be worse than with current CCC.

However Sport Class definition is not a simple project. It requires a good team of collaborating designers trying to anticipate the resulting winning design. It's not as simple as, for example, saying the wing should be EN + have a flat Aspect Ratio below 6.6
In this case, due to the rule constraint, the optimum design, I mean the model that will win, will have a very flat arc. Flat arc is not desirable because it comes with bad handling and high rotation after asymmetrical collapse. The model will win, pilots will have to buy it and it could be a disaster.
Each rules comes with some effect in the optimum design adapted to the rules and that's the reason why writing these rules needs some expertise.

Also, as of today, I'm not sure we can come up with a good class on its own if nothing is done about the way we score final glide. If we only rely on EN C to limit maximum speed, there would be a lot of problems and conflicts. Maximum speed is not well defined in EN C. It's only indirectly limited, with too many gray, unobjective criteria's. But it's a major criteria with today's competition scoring system.

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