Organiser
By thomas senac on Sun, 19 Oct 2025 - 14:52

Interesting proposal- in the implementation steps, could be worth adding the possibility to improve rules from lessons learned (more practicle than the step #4 about governance)

By christiaandurrant on Wed, 22 Oct 2025 - 12:01

Great proposal and as Louis says this is normal in every risk based activity - the fact that it has not got to FAI/CIVL in 30 years is surprising.

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CIVL Delegate
By Julien Garcia on Thu, 23 Oct 2025 - 23:52

Hi Louis, Build a working group for this charter please. We need it. Be it on CIVL or on the union.

Organiser
By Louis Tapper on Fri, 24 Oct 2025 - 05:43

In reply to by Julien Garcia

Is this its own working group on its own or incorporated as part of the reporting working group? I see both civil and pilots' union are pretty unanimous on collecting data on accidents. Consensus hasn't been reached on how that occurs and what level of visibility we have.

By Frazzled on Tue, 28 Oct 2025 - 16:05

At a national level in the UK, even for non-comp flying, there "seems" to be significant under-reporting of accidents (injury) and incidents (non-injury). Anecdotally, in any one club, one gets to hear of more accidents & incidents than appear in the annual report for that club or the BHPA's own annual reports. This may in part be a reflection that the reporting mechanism itself is cumbersome.

I really like the approach & format that was adopted - initially as a beta program - about 5-10 years ago by the BMC (British Mountaineering Council) who had exactly the same *cultural* issues. Here's a link to how you both report and research incidents and accidents; it is quick, accessible and lightweight - and as a consequence is to my knowledge very widely adopted.

https://www.thebmc.co.uk/en/incident-reporting