CIVL Delegate
By Julien Garcia on Tue, 21 Oct 2025 - 20:08

In reply to by Maxime Bellemin

I absolutly agree. I wrote about gentleman agreement. Right now it is believed highest pilot should give the way which is a problem...

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Organiser
By Louis Tapper on Fri, 24 Oct 2025 - 03:45

We are not the first airsport discipline to have the problem. Gliding had an accident rate at high level competitions that were 10x more than regular solo flying (see link below for the analysis). Would be interesting to do this level of analysis on the problems paragliding/Hang Gliding face https://www.fai.org/sites/default/files/documents/collision_risk.pdf

By Markos Siotos on Sat, 25 Oct 2025 - 01:20

I fully agree with Maxime Bellemin

In the end of the day, we want to be alive, not to be the person who is "right" in a mid-air.

For the mid-air NOT to happen you need "two to dance". Spatial awareness and curtesy is the solution, fixed rules do not work as well.

Especially in paragliding, fixed rules can be counterproductive .

Some times you can be the guy "below" and be in control, because you have seen the guy above you, you keep him / her in sight, even if momentarily they are invisible right over your canopy, you still know where they are, and you are "in control"

Some times, it is exactly the opposite. You are "in control" because it happened that you are above, the guy / girl that came below you on their "dead spot" and you know that.

Curtesy and Chivalry. Now you are responsible both for 'you' and for 'them', till they see you, so they can assume their part of responsibility.

It cannot be described with strict rules, it cannot be straightjacketed in Python scripts and algorithms.

Is "Paragliding".

It is fluid, it is chaotic, it flatty denies simple solutions. (Like "80 pilots")

Sorry to say, that means nothing. I'd rather be with 120 proficient pilots in the same thermal than 80 aggressive uncourteous chaps in 2 square kilometers spread...