By Damien Pattou on Sat, 25 Oct 2025 - 20:14

In reply to by christiaandurrant

I agree that pilots should keep a comfortable margin, and this is easily doable when you see people in front of you who stop climbing. When you're in the lead gaggle and the stakes are high however, this is something that can happen, whether it is in a thermal or in a blue convergence as Luc mentions below.

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By Julien Garcia on Wed, 22 Oct 2025 - 14:50

If I'm not mistaken, what you propose is actually in the rule with a 100m buffer (sportive airsapce lower) to the real zone. Organisers often ignore it.

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By Julien Garcia on Wed, 22 Oct 2025 - 14:53

Note that if you touch the actual airsapce (not the buffer) you still have 0 for day. I understand it could be amended so you don't end up in silly situation everybody urging to go down

By Mateusz Gajczewski on Wed, 22 Oct 2025 - 14:55

In many competitions, the altitude limit for pilots is set slightly below the official airspace boundary - for example, by 100 meters - so that only exceeding it by more than 100 meters (actually entering the official airspace) results in a 100% penalty. I believe this should be the standard practice.

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By Luc Armant on Thu, 23 Oct 2025 - 12:00

I second Damien.
Other dangerous situation one would like to avoid living:
Being in a strong and powerfull blue sky convergeance line without knowing the exit and with an airspace ceiling. You are all pushing full speed to death but fail to find an exit and soon there is no more altitude margin to leave the bar for a spiral, as the resource will suck you to the end-of-comp penalty anyway. Your blood is full of adrenaline, you're ready for the all possible stupidity.
A zone with zero penalty but with possible compensation by loosing advantage afterwards is very welcome. Clever idea.

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By thibaultrohmer on Sat, 25 Oct 2025 - 02:03

Interesting idea.
But how long are you allowed in the buffer area ?
Or how much points is it gonna cost ?

I think a mix of both: you loose points depending on how long you stay in the buffer.

By Damien Pattou on Sat, 25 Oct 2025 - 20:09

In reply to by thibaultrohmer

I haven't thought about how much time you could be "allowed" in the buffer. It could be one parameter but it may complicate things.

I guess it would only make sense if you weren't to lose points if you can prove later that you lost your advantage, just like cloud flying. If you don't lose your advantage, then apply the same penalty as today ? Penalties seem to vary depending on competitions anyway.